tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post5691787475398092067..comments2023-10-31T06:05:30.995-04:00Comments on SimonOnSports: Did WWE Do the Right Thing?Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09360191406192489235noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-34401859163135692082007-06-27T10:54:00.000-04:002007-06-27T10:54:00.000-04:00Here's a quote from Vince McMahon, you choose to b...Here's a quote from Vince McMahon, you choose to believe everything or not.<BR/><BR/>''Last night on Monday Night Raw, the WWE presented a special tribute show, recognizing the career of Chris Benoit,'' McMahon said. ``However, now some 26 hours later, the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent.''<BR/><BR/>``Therefore, other than my comments, there will be no mention of Mr. Benoit tonight. On the contrary, tonight's show will be dedicated to everyone who has been affected by this terrible incident. This evening marks the first step of the healing process. Tonight, the WWE performers will do what they do better than anyone else in the world -- entertain you.''<BR/><BR/>So if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt its your choice. <BR/><BR/>Personally I think that they should have played it out and waited, as to me the only natural thought to the news was murder suicide and perhaps thats a sad statement into my feelings about wrestlers and of america in general.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360191406192489235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-84988764072391150322007-06-27T09:42:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:42:00.000-04:00Oh I would definitely give Vince McMahon the benef...Oh I would definitely give Vince McMahon the benefit of the doubt. Because he's shown such restraint and good judgment in the past.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion, it's the WWE making a knee-jerk promotional decision without thinking it through. I'm sure McMahon thought it was good to strike while the iron was hot on goodwill toward Benoit. But the fact is, no matter whether you think it was a good decision or not, the WWE should be embarrassed. Even if you are a WWE apologist, you have to admit that in 20/20 hindsight, knowing all we DO know now, it was a horrible move to air such a tribute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-17940904184452890682007-06-27T09:17:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:17:00.000-04:00The writing was on the wall? Maybe I'm silly but t...The writing was on the wall? Maybe I'm silly but the news comes across about a family found dead in their home suddenly, the writing seems to spell Carbon Monoxide poisoning. And if I was putting together a live show that is going to be the first time a lot of people here of this news, I might err on the side of caution, instead of "reading the writing on the wall"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-62112657654076692242007-06-27T09:12:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:12:00.000-04:00Its pretty easy to look back and say "Vince should...Its pretty easy to look back and say "Vince should have known. There were suspicions from the start." However, just consider the timing. At about 4pm est (4hours before the start of the show) they find out the Benoits are dead. Obviously it stuns everyone. Yet again I must point out its 4 hours until they go live. A desicion is made quickly to make a tribute. So they now have to gather the crew, inform them of what happened, and produce the tribute, which includes not only previously recorded material, but testimonials that have to be shot. From that point until 8pm its a scramble to put the show together, plus work with the arena to get word out that the live event is cancelled. Also, as the show got in to its third hour. the live announcers obviously had learned the truth about the tradgedy and were making it clear that they were honoring him as a great wrestler. All in all a hard place to be in, and I don't see what they could have done differently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-81173486452881368012007-06-27T09:03:00.000-04:002007-06-27T09:03:00.000-04:00A) To me the writing was on the wall and when they...A) To me the writing was on the wall and when they came out with the news report on monday afternoon that was all it sounded like. Also, the WWE had reported that they had received suspicious text messages and in addition it is almost guaranteed that they had the info prior to the general public. <BR/><BR/>B) You're right in that they didn't release it was a hanging + strangling til yesterday morning but still the writing was on the wall.<BR/><BR/>C) I'm not going to say don't watch wrestling anymore if you like it cause this was so bad. I just think that if the writing is on the wall perhaps a little patience would have been a smarter choice.<BR/><BR/>D) I am in fact a moron so that guy was right on. And who said I have any credibility?Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360191406192489235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-52898126682208296392007-06-27T08:18:00.000-04:002007-06-27T08:18:00.000-04:00Wow Smion, I had no idea other people actually rea...Wow Smion, I had no idea other people actually read you're stuff. I especially like the 10 comments in a row saying that at the time of the tribute, they didn't know it was a murder suicide, and the paperview comment. Mills suggests to me everyday that he should be your editor, prior to you posting stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-68454521929261029782007-06-27T07:51:00.000-04:002007-06-27T07:51:00.000-04:00As soon as the death was announced, the police rep...As soon as the death was announced, the police reported it as an alleged murder suicide. From the start, before the tribute, there were doubts circulating. WWE knew this. They proceeded anyway with their ill-timed tribute. It is now confirmed as a double murder suicide. But the ratings were great and look at the publicity.<BR/><BR/>Simone is correct to condemn this. Benoit is a piece of trash that strangled his wife, injected his 7 year old with HGH because he didn't think he was big enough (there were confirmed track marks in his kids' arm plus a toxicology report), then smothered his son, then hung himself. I hope he rots in hell.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16192356570538480216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-56718355959887684872007-06-27T05:16:00.000-04:002007-06-27T05:16:00.000-04:00WWE.com had Murder Suicide under Beniot's picture ...WWE.com had Murder Suicide under Beniot's picture on the frontpage of their website prior to the West coast airing of RAW and during the EAST COAST airing.<BR/><BR/>perhaps they could have ran a "Best of RAW" or something instead of a tribute (at least on the West coast, when the facts were known)<BR/><BR/>However, all the people killing the writer for getting facts straight should get the facts straight themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-36803680249452672652007-06-27T04:07:00.000-04:002007-06-27T04:07:00.000-04:00Well, the WWE didn't know at the time that it was ...Well, the WWE didn't know at the time that it was a double-murder suicide, ripping them over a tribute show is ignorant. Besides, he was one of the best in-ring performers that the WWE ever had, so double murder/suicide or not, he still is dead and should be shown some respect for his career. Besides, ripping the WWE now isn't going to do anything. The tribute has already been shown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-14127737869507499052007-06-27T01:24:00.000-04:002007-06-27T01:24:00.000-04:00Make sure you get the facts straight. The WWE didn...Make sure you get the facts straight. The WWE didn't snatch up Benoit when WCW folded: Benoit jumped ship to the WWE over a year before WCW went under.<BR/><BR/>The little mistakes kill off any credibility you have with your writings.<BR/><BR/>The tribute may have rubbed people the wrong way, but like they said, you can't blame the WWE retroactively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-82659617029258087062007-06-27T00:15:00.000-04:002007-06-27T00:15:00.000-04:00The AJC reported the likelihood it was domestic in...The AJC reported the likelihood it was domestic in nature VERY early. At 9Pm last night I read it was a muder suicide on that newspaper's site. Unless I was the first person to read it, it was probably known, but not widely, before then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-14597882712914925162007-06-26T23:45:00.000-04:002007-06-26T23:45:00.000-04:00Oh c'mon. I'm not much of a wrestling fan these da...Oh c'mon. <BR/><BR/>I'm not much of a wrestling fan these days but it seems like sometimes to certain people that view the WWE as a con (it's not, it's just a fictional TV show like every other TV show out there... yet for some reason people still get up in arms over fictitious storylines, but if the same thing happened on another TV show nobody would bat an eye. But that's a totally different story.) the WWE will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.<BR/><BR/>NOBODY knew it was a double-murder suicide when the show went on last night.<BR/><BR/>You think McMahon just wanted to profit from it?! Then why in the hell did he give the 16,000 people that were going to attend RAW that night their money back and just show clips of old Chris Benoit matches instead, thus ruining several of the shows ongoing storylines in the process?!<BR/><BR/>You people make no sense. They did the right thing at the time. But as soon as I learned what really happened I immediately thought "Oh god... the press is gonna kill McMahon again and totally ignore the fact that they didn't know he killed them when they put the show together!"<BR/><BR/>They needed to put SOMETHING on to fill the 3-hour timeslot. The USA Network AND the stockholders would be irate if he didn't. Considering what they knew at the time, a tribute made the most sense. There was no glorification of a killer there, just paying tribute to a dead wrestler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-19525747589303323472007-06-26T23:44:00.000-04:002007-06-26T23:44:00.000-04:00I agree. Deadspin should not have linked to this....I agree. Deadspin should not have linked to this. The details of the incident were not revealed in time of the broadcast. Total waste of time. Let's start thinking before we write.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-44715929902699579912007-06-26T21:48:00.000-04:002007-06-26T21:48:00.000-04:00I really wish Deadspin hadn't bothered to turn the...I really wish Deadspin hadn't bothered to turn their readers' rheumy eyes towards this lazy piece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-33937893854644977862007-06-26T21:37:00.000-04:002007-06-26T21:37:00.000-04:00I may be repeating here, but I think that the WWE ...I may be repeating here, but I think that the WWE removed the tribute from their website today after the news of the murder and suicide was released...Dustyn Winderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09176252210462216062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-47343691555796217532007-06-26T21:03:00.000-04:002007-06-26T21:03:00.000-04:00Sorry but it's time to inject some humor here beca...Sorry but it's time to inject some humor here because I've had too much of this sappy crap when the murder scene and circumstances were so obvious. See, I've heard so many times of guy's killing their wives, but killing your 7 year old kid just makes you a deustche. <BR/><BR/>Chris was one of my favorite wrestlers, his attitude, ring moves, everything. Only to come and find out that his blue-collar type attitude deceived us all. The name "Benoit" should now be one of those words that people throw in as a verb in the same jest of 'je ne se quir.' What does Benoit mean exactly....what else but to decieve. And it should be used as such:<BR/><BR/>Jim Benoited his wife into believing he spent 5,000 dollars on a vacation, when it was really to pay off his gambling debt.<BR/><BR/>Luke pulled a Benoit on his friend Mike, by convincing him, that he was a virgin.The Green Carbon Traderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13377415669354358723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-40190933683638657422007-06-26T17:48:00.000-04:002007-06-26T17:48:00.000-04:00"If WWE hadn't done a tribute, non-fans would have..."If WWE hadn't done a tribute, non-fans would have ripped them and fans would have been upset."<BR/><BR/>Actually, non-fans would have ignored it. The fans would have just come back anyway.<BR/><BR/>The WWE has properties all over the place, airing all days of the week. They could have waited. They should have waited. A sane business would have done a risk analysis of how this could have gone. <BR/><BR/>Instead, they've made a move that makes the Owen Hart incident pale in comparison. (At least that time, they didn't spend 3 hours telling their public how much Hart enjoyed heights.)DMtShooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17773877707208485532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-65726881130533172942007-06-26T17:28:00.000-04:002007-06-26T17:28:00.000-04:00You are a moron - last nite all they knew was that...You are a moron - last nite all they knew was that the family was dead. Had they been murdered by robbers would a tribute have been right? Of course. In hindsite yes they look like they have egg on their face but to castigate them for something they didnt know is plain stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-61065277762952286382007-06-26T17:20:00.000-04:002007-06-26T17:20:00.000-04:00It always piques my interest to get a peek at peak...It always piques my interest to get a peek at peak evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-23127762594052155322007-06-26T17:15:00.000-04:002007-06-26T17:15:00.000-04:00As loathe as I am to say anything positive about t...As loathe as I am to say anything positive about that asshat McMahon and his band of flunkies, if "RAW" was on a night other than Monday, I <I>think</I> they would've backed off on the "tribute", especially after the current facts had been made public. I don't think even Vinny Mac would've held Benoit up as a good guy. But then again, this is the same guy who allowed a wrestling card to go on just hours after Owen Hart had died in the arena; so who knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-5812477453033109442007-06-26T16:53:00.000-04:002007-06-26T16:53:00.000-04:00The guy was dead in his home with his entire famil...The guy was dead in his home with his entire family around him. There were suspicious text messages that the WWE even reported about on their own website. <BR/>These circumstances should be suspicious enough to warrant putting a hold on a tribute video to anyone with two ounces of common sense. <BR/>Not to mention prudence dictates you shouldn't take ANY action in a case like this until there are more facts out than the ones available to the WWE. <BR/>Yes, they may not have know the truth at the time of the tribute video. But it doesn't mean they are absolved from being completely irresponsible in their behavior. <BR/>I hate to be cynical, but this just reeks of Vince doing anything he can to bring publicity to the franchise, be it positive or negative. Bad form.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-22168302700504920102007-06-26T16:37:00.000-04:002007-06-26T16:37:00.000-04:00Folks, I understand the issues of needing to fill ...Folks, I understand the issues of needing to fill three hours of air time. I also understand the sadness of fans. And I understand that the knowledge that Benoit likely killed his wife and son was not yet known.<BR/><BR/>The reason WWE has egg on its collective face this morning is because the circumstances surrounding the deaths were immediately suspicious. They really should have erred on the side of caution on this one and not risked airing a 3-HOUR tribute to a man now believed to have been a double-murderer.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I suppose it's way too much to ask an organization to wait until they know some facts about a situation before reacting.<BR/><BR/>Especially one that plays fake sports/fake reality show make-believe for a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-13382411576123192562007-06-26T16:33:00.000-04:002007-06-26T16:33:00.000-04:00I thought this was one of Vince's classiest moment...I thought this was one of Vince's classiest moments, to be honest. It looks like it will come back to bite him in the ass, but canceling the live show (at a big price to the company), ending his personal "death" storyline, and giving the wrestlers and the fans an opportunity to mourn his death, was one of his best moments. He has exploited his wrestlers' deaths in the past, but not this time. So far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-52643835547375131092007-06-26T16:29:00.000-04:002007-06-26T16:29:00.000-04:00Oh please. If WWE hadn't done a tribute, non-fans...Oh please. If WWE hadn't done a tribute, non-fans would have ripped them and fans would have been upset. <BR/><BR/>It wasn't hinted that it was a double murder suicide until last night around 11:00 PM CST.<BR/><BR/>Also, Benoit joined WWE in January of 2000, 13 months before WCW went bankrupt and was bought by Vince McMahon.<BR/><BR/>Might be a good idea to get your facts straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26119774.post-55908869642299366902007-06-26T16:24:00.000-04:002007-06-26T16:24:00.000-04:00This smacks of Vince "I had my memorial ready for ...This smacks of Vince "I had my memorial ready for this show, but now realize it was a bad stunt, especially in light of what just happened" McMan capitalizing on tragedy. The WWE were the ones who called the cops, so they knew SOMETHING fishy was going on. They may not have knon everything, but they knew enough to keep it off the air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com